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of indiana school kids leaving public school, going to private school all on the state's dime. so is this new approach really working? we'll discuss it. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables? maybe not. v8 v-fusion juice gives them a full serving of vegetables plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. [ male announcer ] get five dollars in money-saving coupons at v8juice.com. yesterday doesn't win. big doesn't win. titles corner offices don't win. what wins? original wins. fresh wins. smart wins. the world's most dynamic companies know what wins in business today. maybe that's why so many choose to work with us. we're grant thornton. audit. tax. advisory. >> welcome back, everyone. school choice is gaining traction now. at least in indiana. thousands of students are fleeing public schools for catholic schools after receiving vouchers as part of a new state law that allows families to choose the school of their choice even a private school. >> john l.sesser is the executive director of the indiana nonpublic education association and join
to an unforgettable home coming in indiana. her boyfriend's elaborate proposal is our favorite story of the day. d the stories are always so cool to hear. >> you have to hear the stories, any time, but especially now. we begin with the all-out ambush on texas governor rickck perry last night's debate. >> republican rivals attacked perry not only on social security, immigration, economic record in texas. abc's correspondent joins us now with highlights. good morning, brad. >> reporter: good. from social security to social and economic issues, each republican trying to stand out at laos night's debate. front-runner rick perry had to face his gop opposition. eight republicans courting the came out swinging. party support mitt romney tried to back rick perry into the corner for calling social security a ponzi scheme. but the texas governor fouought back. it has been called by a ponzi scheme by many people long before me. >> governor, the term scared seniors. social security is an essential program. >> you said if people did i iin the private sector it would be called criminal. that is in your book. >>
death fresh in mind, along with seven others killed last month when storms toppled this indiana stage, clearing the stands in the interest of safety may now be considered a good call. barbara pinto, abc news, chicago. >> lesson learned out there. better safe than sorry. >> absolutely. >>> let's take a look at the weather from around the country on this labor day morning. some stormy weather from lee stretches as far north as washington, d.c. showers and thunderstorms will give way to heavy rain in the northeast from philadelphia to here in new york. boston, thunderstorms meanwhil., >> 88 in sacramento. a mild 66 in detroit. and 70 in indianapolis. heat finally breaks in texas with dallas only getting up to 82. welcome relief. 80s from boston baltimore. 81 in new orleans. 90 in miami. >>> in eastexas a mother and her 18 month-old daughter have died after an out of control wildfire engulfed their trailer home. officials say the pair had no chance to escape. >>> meanwhile a wildfire in the aust austin suburb destroyed two homes, the situation there has gotten so dangerous that the fire d
in northern parts of indiana. there are severe storms here that have a history of producing 60-plus-mile-per-hour winds in addition to hail. so they're evacuating the stadium right now, get everybody out of there, game delay to help keep those people safe. so great move on the part of officials and authorities there. if you remember, it was just three weeks ago today in indianapolis where the stage collapsed during the sugar land concert and three people died there. i'm not sure if that's being taken into account at all in this situation. it's great to see that they're evacuating the situation right now as these storms are approaching from the west. you can see there's a severe thunderstorm watch across the whole area, it does include chicago too, and there's been ground stops at o'hare as well as midway because of those thunderstorms so if you're trying to travel, unfortunately things aren't looking better as things are pushing from from the west. maximum winds around 16 miles an hour, it's been kind of drifting erratically, off the coast of louisiana here. so the intensity has sta
's program today. will it help indiana? i realize you have a huge surplus. you have an unemployment rate around 8.7%, does this help >> no, the help we want as dennis just said an economy that starts growing and provides jobs and opportunity and hope once again for our people. tally, that would be helpful in -- incidentally that would be helpful in paying down the debt. in fact, it is getting a little old. did the president forget he just raised medicare taxes last year they are coming in a year from now on the same people. h xá never seems to understand that these folks he wants to keep laying more and more burden on predominantly are small businesses the enterprises that have always generated the net new jobs in america. it will not generate the revenue he's talking about. and it is counterproductive in terms of the growth that alone can get us out of this fix. >> greta: i'm all curious, when you took office you had a 700 million dollar deficiency. now you have a billion dollar surplus that's a big jump in five years. i'm a little curious. i realize the states problems are different
of wild weather. incredible pictures to show you. indiana, a massive bolt of lightning appeared to hit notre dame stadium. that storm unleashed brutal rains during the home opener. the stadium was evacuated twice, once during halftime and once during the fourth quarter. no one was hurt. >>> tropical storm lee has come ashore. rain has triggered flooding in low-lying areas in new orleans and prompted evacuations in jefferson parrish. thousands have also lost power. more from the weather channel's alex wallace, alex, just gotten word of an apparent tornado touchdown in florida this morning? what's going on? >> that's right. you know what, alex. it has to do with lee. when you get tropical cyclones, you can get in closer to the coast, you can get brief tornadoes storming up. lee pushes closer to the coast. we'll be waiting for confirmation on that. latest on lee right now. 50 miles west of morgan city, louisiana. sustained winds at 40 miles per hour, moving at a snail's pace at 3 miles per hour. the view on the radar showing you where we have all of the rain. the bands still coming on in
the 3-month of old search for missing indiana student. lawren lawrence speir's mother is here. first, this is "today" on nbc. america's favorite coffee is now available for america's favorite single-serve brewer. try new dunkin' k-cup packs and enjoy the freshly brewed signature taste at home. it's a beautiful thing. come in today for all five dunkin' k-cup varieties, available only at dunkin' donuts stores. america runs on dunkin' coffee. >>> coming up, the "real housewives of beverly hills" opens up in a live interview about the suicide of a cast member's estranged husband. >>> exclusive look. rare tiger cubs on display at the zoo in atlanta. smoky eyes look amazing. but creating them? that's a whole different story. almay intense i-color smoky-i kit. first, sweep the smoky-i color across your lid. then, add the crease accentuating shade... and a highlight under your brow. only from almay. only for me. welcome, to the this is our plant.ur. these are our workers... and this, is upper management. but what you won't find around here is any freezing, flavoring or concentrating. which b
at indiana university one remains missing. lauren disappeared. with each passing day her family's holding out hope she will be found. john yang reports. >> reporter: indiana university's new school year begins with an old question -- what happened to lauren speier? the 20-year-old fashion student was last seen walking back to her offcampus apartment at about 4:30 in the morning, after a night hoof partying with friend june 3rd, three months ago today. this summer, her parents retraced the steps at the same time of night. rob speier says what they saw disturbed them. >> we saw people walking, many of them were inebriated, some walking by themselves. our message had not registered with people. >> reporter: as the school year begins, lauren's apartment complex held safety seminars. >> we were extremely, extremely disappointed by the lack of turnout. they're either invincible or they are just completely oblivious to their surroundings. >> reporter: weeks of searching, including last month's search of thousands of tons of trash at a landfill, haven't turned up any trace of lauren. rob and charlene
storms toppled this indiana stage. the interest of safety may now be a good call. barbara pinto, abc news, chicago. >>> turning oversaechs tonight, thousands of rebels have converged on one of moammar gadhafi's last remaining strongholds. negotiations for a surrender have collapsed, and now rebels are waiting to attack. but is gadhafi even there? abc's jeffrey kofman is in libya. jeffrey? >> reporter: good evening, jake. today, we traveled south to one of the last remaining cities loil to gadhafi. and it looks like it won't fall without a fight. they are prepearing for one more battle. and it could come within hours. the battle of bani walid. when we approached the front line, there was still hope fighting could be avoided this is as far as we're allowed to go, down here, about 50 miles, the city of bani walid, still under control of gadhafi loyalists. right now, rebel troops are ouz the city. they certainly have the power to vanquish it. they are trying to avoid it. is this brigade ready to fight? >> if we have to, yes. that's what we're here for. we all have our weapons. we want a peace
toppled this indiana stage, clearing the stands in the interest of safety may now be considered a good call. barbara pinto, abc news, chicago. >>> turning overseas tonight, thousands of rebels have converged on one of moammar gadhafi's last remaining strongholds. negotiations for a surrender have collapsed, and now rebels are waiting for the order to attack. but is gadhafi even there? abc's jeffrey kofman is in libya. jeffrey? >> reporter: good evening, jake. today, we traveled south to one of the last remaining cities loyal to gadhafi. and it looks like it won't fall without a fight. they are preparing for one more battle. and it could come within hours. the battle of bani walid. when we approached the front line late this afternoon, there was still hope fighting could be avoided. at this hour, this is as far as the rebels will let us go. their troops are massed down this road on the outskirts of bani walid. but right now, they are calling a meeting with tribal elders to try to find a way to avoid more bloodshed. is this brigade ready to fight if they have to? >> if we have to, yes. t
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. this is a stage collapse at the indiana state fair. the state attorney general's office now says 14 people are planning to sue over this incident. seven people were killed. 40 others were injured. the stage came down during a wind storm. an investigation is looking into whether the stage was as strong as it should have been. >>> also, coming up, a small town in italy that has some big dreams. they want the town to be an independent state. first thing first. they started printing their own money. there is an idea. >>> it's a big labor day weekend. all of the candidates are out, but one person is taking up a lot of the attention. sarah palin. we will tell you what she is up to this weekend. excluve to the military. and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. from free checking to credit cards to loans, our commitment to the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. ♪ visit us online to learn what makes our bank so different. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> we
on briefly. a comment from an indiana democratic representative andre carlson is getting a lot of attention. he said some in the tea party positive like to see blacks "hanging on a tree." other critics say the complexion of the tea party hardly reflects the diversity of this nation. how do you respond to those line of charges? >> first, i think andre carson picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. that's the most ridiculous statements i've heard in years. >> i'm not sure he's addicted to glue sniffing, sir. >> do you remember the movie "airport" starring lloyd bridges? >> i do. >> okay. well, i rest my case at that point. look, if you go a tea party event, there's more diversity at a tea party event than in the cbc. probably more diversity in a tea party event than congressman carson's office. you know, that's just the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i've never met anybody as a tea party event who's racist or expresses anything other than that. you know, the tea party lives by the words of martin luther king. we just people by the content of their character, not the color of thei
or not employed can get back to work. >> one of things we saw, but ohio, indiana, other places, is that labor aside -- where were it's clearly the policy dispute, politically you've been the ones that have been the backbone in terms of resources in helping to even the plays field. when is look at the ten largest contributors to what was in the given political landscape, only two of the top ten -- three of the top ten, forgive me, were supported quote liberal or progressive side, all thee of them were union. seiu, afscme, and the nea. also were conservative groups looks the chamber of commerce, crossroads, and in many ways, aside from the policy difference, i would suspect, and i'm subject to conspiracy sometimes, that they want to try to break the unions, because it also stops the resources of the opposition. >> absolutely. they attack us in 20-some states that we have to defend ourselves, and you use the resources up to that you would use to educate. they try to get you to eat them up, but in this case it actually backfired. not only did it energized our members, it energized the general pub
, indiana. then at 4:45 john boehner will deliver some remarks for a grand opening for jobs in his district. he will be leading a bipartisan delegation to shanksville, pennsylvania, to honor the victims of flight 93 who may have saved the capital from being attacked on 9/11. yeah. 24 bucks later. that hurts. it's not like i really had a choice. snack on this. progressive's "name your price" tool showed me a range of coverages and i picked the one that worked for me. i saved hundreds. wow, that's dinner and a movie. [ dramatic soundtrack plays ] this picture stars you and savings. but mostly savings. out there with a better way. now, that's progressive. a network of possibilities... ♪ in here, pets never get lost. ♪ in here, every continent fits in one room. it was fun, we played football outside. why are you sitting in the dark? ♪ [ male announcer ] in here, you're never away from home. it's the at&t network. and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. >>> time for the flip side. our look behind the headlines. unemployment may be stuck at 9.1%. but one segment of the econ
get sick of the damn thing. the school voucher legislation was signed into law in the state of indiana. explain the downside of these voucher programs. >> look, parents have a right to send their kids to the schools it that they want to send their kids to, and i don't begrudge any parent that wants to send a child to a religious school to have that right to do so. >> the downside of the voucher program is? >> the downside is in a period of time when you have -- when poverty is up, when school cuts are up, we can't take one more cent out of the public school system and divert it somewhere else. >> here's what america -- here's what i think i'm doing reading on this. first of all, the federal funds aren't coming in. the state budgets are being cut, so where do locals go to? they go to property taxes. you have economically challenged areas in the inner city. they can't go to poor people for property faxes. this is the big screw job in america. there was a time in this country in public education when the door was open and everybody was welcome. now they want to make it so the wealthy come
information about a form of flu virus that has emerged in my native pennsylvania and indiana, and what do you know about that? >> well, something to watch in the next few days and week. with e no e fr we know about the swine flu, and a new movie coming up about bird flu is going to get people thinking of a pandemic again. and this is a very new virus and it is probably not responsive to the vaccine that is out there, and so, it could spread. we haven't seen evidence of widespread yet, and we don't know how efficient it is, but these, these children who didn't have any relationship to a farm, and yet this seems to have come from pigs, so we are not sure what is going on here. >> never that it is a good time, but it is a bad time, because the kids are in school or certainly by next week going back to school. >> but there is not a lot of evidence yet. there is only two cases, and everybody will be watching closely. and the state labs are very much better at the surveillance, because of the, you know, incidence with the swine flu in 2009, so that is why they are picked up earlier and before they
and indiana required you to show a photo i.d. to cast a ballot. republicans in five more states including wisconsin passed laws saying you can't vote unless you show i.d. you did not used to have to show and frankly not all people have. across the nation elected republicans are been hard at work making it harder to vote wherever they can, however they can. republicans in maine, for example, this year passed a law ending same day registration in the state. mainers can no longer register and vote on the same day as they have been able to since the early '70s. today, a maine group that's working to get same-day registration back pointed out that governor la page, himself and nine other elected maine republicans themselves registered to vote immediately before elections. the thing they just made illegal. saying it somehow made maine's elections unsafe. it's not fit for others and has to be outlawed but it's okay for them? in south carolina, nikki haley signed a law making it harder to vote in south carolina. 200,000 people in her state, 200,000 south carolinians do not have the photo i.d. tha
the model in indiana, leasing a state highway, and for both of you, do you think hired direct user fees are a more economically direct an efficient way of funding either extension or maintenance of roads and bridges? >> separating out roads from public transportation is an important first and getting more transparency and accuracy and honesty in budgeting. government accounting, that is helpful. i am an advocate of phasing out most if not all of the federal gasoline tax and allowing states to take those resources and spend them, because you have a hard time telling people who will spend it on roads if they see a guy doing state money, siphon off the subways and the bike paths and what not. they do not know what they can believe and what happened to the dollar they thought they were paying for roads. to the extent you can turn those cards face up and say this is what we're spending on road and public transit, subway system, and states you will never visit, and here is what you're doing and here's leisured -- not in your neighborhood. it is very helpful. >> direct user fees meaning tolls
will be a challenge for the president and colorado is a great example of a state he won last time like indiana, north carolina, virginia that is going to be a challenge. he's got to get young people energized, hispanics energized, independents. his numbers are way down in colorado. >> what happened? we had just heard 40 years ago that democrats were in the process of locking down colorado, new mexico, nevada. >> arizona? >> maybe even arizona. everything was breaking their way. the hispanic population growth out there. a lot of other things happening. but now just four years later what seemed inevitable? >> these are still purple states. they're not red states. but colorado is a state where the president's national problems are very well represented. the economy there is okay but it's -- there is still an overhang. again, hispanics, young people, he needs an energized base to turn out in a state like that and right now they are not a particularly energized group as compared to four years ago. >> you've got in all of those states competing things. one is that there is generally even among people who w
pick city of the day. happens to be sound bend, indiana. as we check the forecast today, wet weather and rip currents as maria makes its way offshore. we're looking at sunshine tomorrow around the gulf. the heat continues and not as hot as it has been. some rain off the southeastern atlantic coast. >>> and i am meteorologists, tom kierein. we are getting a thunder shower heading into pennsylvania, and further south there showers and they extend back into west virginia as well as the shenandoah valley. they are heading our way. looks like we will have showers and maybe thunder later this morning and perhaps through the middle of the afternoon. and much cooler tonight as we clear out with a gusty north >>> a lot of ball fans right here. all right. mr. lauer? >> when we come back sienna miller talks for the first time on tv about being a victim of that phone hacking scandal in great britain. we'll have that right after this. -i love this card. -with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card, we earn more cash back for the things we buy most. it's 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2%
, the one that would be best served for the republican party is jon huntsman. >> okay, let's go to indiana governor mitch daniels has decided not to run. he's very well thought of. he says there's time for someone else to jump in. in fact, he even told "the new york times" jeff zeleny he had tried to get three or four republicans, other fellas or women to jump in. "rick perry proved it wasn't too late. i don't think it's too late yet. in the wired world we're in, somebody new could get in." is that reasonable? could a chris christie get in this race? >> i don't think so. getting on the ballots in various states would be problematic to begin with, before you even get into whether or not you could raise the money. that's a huge part of the early work you have to do. when you look at what's going on in pennsylvania right now with the republican legislature and the governor are looking at changing the dynamics of how they will vote electorally, all of -- >> how about a natural like donald trump? wouldn't he be able to jump right into this thing? just kidding. he's talking about running as inde
that the president won re-election, i think a lower approval rating than indiana. here's what he said about the state of fund raising for the president. >> raising money is hard. right now. for -- in this economy and we -- and obviously, because the president's been spending the great time this summer dealing with the debt crisis, we had to cancel a bunch of events. we'll hit the quarterly targets but, you know, it is hard. >> the fund raising number, though, meshes with another word you hear about inside the base. enthusiasm or lack thereof. >> right. that's a problem and out there on the road right now at top volume really repackaging what he proposed earlier that failed on capitol hill and repackaging it as a jobs bill with a good chan chant that rhymes with "yes we can." and new hampshire is a great test for that because it's a more conservative-leaning state. >> with a populous ring to it looking for a little more sympathetic coming to the government. beth, it does seem -- what's the next tact here for president obama? clear republicans decided to throw up a wall and not deal with this thing at
. notre dame's home game in indiana was delayed nearly three hours. and fans were evacuated from the stadium twice because of heavy rain and lightning. and university of michigan's game against western michigan was stopped late in the third quarter because of lightning. and it never resumed. michigan, by the way, keeping score, won that game. >>> finally, it seems that movie stars are never out of the spotlight. but just ask crystal the monkey. the primate star of "night at the museum," and "the hangover part 2," was spotted on a flight from l.a. to newark yesterday. the 17-year-old female monkey smiled for her fans and posed for pictures. how about that? i did a little research. and i could not find an faa regulation that says you cannot let a monkey buy a ticket and fly on a plane. >> ron asked his producer, why is this monkey sitting in first class? >> as far as we know, she was in coach. you know? a beer. >> low-key. incognito. >>> let's check the weather. we're going back to scott padgett, from our miami station, local 10, wplg, also known as tropical storm lee. >> thanks so
notre dame stadium in indiana, a fierce storm swept through the south bend area. the weather became to violent officials evacuated that stadium at halftime and again during the fourth quarter. but the good news, no one was hurt. >>> president obama visits paterson, new jersey, tote one of the areas hardest hi by hurricane irene flooding. thousands of residents forced out of their homes. >> for a couple days this is this area by the towers was flooded and buses couldn't get through, i couldn't get to work. i couldn't get to work for a good two or three days. and it was just a lot of flooding. people couldn't get to work, people couldn't do what they had to do. it got pretty difficult. >> nbc's mara schiavocampo in paterson for us. good sunday morning to you. what exactly will the president be seeing today? >> reporter: well, good morning, alex. he will be touring disaster areas, places that were hard hit by hurricane irene. so surveying some of that damage. thanks to the storm the area saw extensive flooding. it's the worst flooding in more than a century. the passaic river behind me
in the upper midwest, chicago to indiana. the notre dame game, they evacuated the stadium in south bend because of severe thunderstorms. that game might not get played today. there you see the location of the stadium. this is the first time in history they say that they've evacuated the stadium and delayed a game because of weather. also problems at the tennessee game, the iowa game, and the michigan game because of storms. >> i know -- >> they want them safe. >> i don't think they want to risk anything. i remember a story, a young student at notre dame, declan sullivan was his name. he was filming the practice and the hydraulic lift fell over, to his death. i would imagine that they're taking every precaution that they can. although some people may be upset with the decision. thank you very much, appreciate it. a lot going on with katia and lee. we'll check back, thanks. >>> also, we're covering gabrielle giffords. the last time we saw the congresswoman, she showed up for that important house vote to keep the government from defaulting. there she was getting a standing ovation. who could forge
. . this week students are returning to college campuses across this country. but indiana university student lauren spierer is skill missing. saturday marked three months since the 20-year-old fashion student's disappearance. her mohr described what it's been like not knowing what her daughter is. >> what frustrates me most is we don't have lauren. i'm heartbroken. there's not even a word to express the emotion that philadelphia to that person that knows what happened, you're responsible. you know where lauren is. it's time. it's time to come forward. >> michelle is the investigative crime reporter. michelle, her mohr also wrote an open letter as well. what do we know about that? >> the letter is just sort of describing the details about the pain that they've gone through over the last three months and also describing about having to pack up her apartment. going there shipping 19 boxes back to home. and really kind of making a plea to the person who may be responsible for her disappearance to sort offense come forward and to have a little insight to the world and to what her and her husband
was the same in south bend, indiana, for notre dame, south florida, and in knoxville for tennessee-montana. fans in and arbor didn't get to see the fourth quarter. michigan's match-up was called off because of lightning. the teams agreed to end the game with the wolverines up dean obeidallah-10. not something fans want to see. jacqui jeras is at the weather center. we know how football fans are. they are into the game. this is opening weekend. better to be safe, right? >> absolutely. it was great to see they actually evacuated some of these stadiums to keep people safe throughout the storm. bummer for football fans. tomorrow is another day. hopefully next weekend we'll get great games in. we are tracking storms still moving across the midwest at this hour. a sliver of a severe thunderstorm watch which includes the det tro metro area. you guys have been pounded with heavy rain, lots of lightning. we've seen strong gusty winds to go along with it. this is the cold front helping to drive all of our weather systems right now across the u.s. this is heading into the eastern great lakes
of the land, as i understand it, is the indiana system's been upheld and you will see more of this, mr. chairman, not less. 30 states have some form of voter i.d. requirement, so i think this is the future of the country. something we should embrace at the federal level, because elections do matter. >> where you sit is where you stand. his votes are probably overwhelmingly white, probably overwhelmingly middle class, and they have i.d. cards, because they have cars. after this week's republican debate, herman cain was asked by a reporter what he thought of senator graham's proposal for a federal law to requiring voters to show a government-issued photo i.d. in order to vote. he said he'd support it. let's listen. >> if you need a license to get -- a picture to get on an airplane, why shouldn't you need one in order to be able to vote? >> do you want to respond to that? >> well, flying on an airplane isn't in the united states constitution. the united states constitution does not guarantee our right to fly. it does, however, guarantee our right to vote. and let me just say again, you kn
's got a lot of flexibility there. he could lose florida. he could lose indiana. don't think people know that's in play. he could lose north carolina, virginia. he'd still get past 270 electoral votes. >> where are the areas in florida where you think the president could gain ground? certainly in the polling we were looking at in florida about rick perry, for example, and the social security issues, it looks like the president -- certainly if rick perry's the nominee would be able to gain ground on the social security issue in florida. is there anything else he could do there? >> you know, elections in florida really are won in the middle. and it's the i-4 corridor from st. petersburg to daytona, which is really the swing voter area of florida. and that's really where obama's in trouble. those approval ratings among independent and swing voters are just as bad as they are among overall. so he's got a lot of work to do in that range. there's sort of a myth from 2008 that he won with a really hyped-up base and an excited base. he really won because he won independents. he won independents
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